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Shallow Bath or Deep Bath

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The main costs involved in washing yourself relate to the cost of heating water and bathing uses a lot of hot water.  Gas, electricity, solar energy or solid fuels like coal can all be used to heat water in the domestic environment.  Solar water heating and solid fuels are considered in more detail in separate articles.     To make the camparison between deep and shallow baths only gas and electric immersion heating are considered.

There is a wild variation in bath size, preference on how full you like to have a bath, the temperature of the water you prefer and indeed the temperature of the water coming into your property.  All of these factors will influence how much it costs you to have a bath.    The examples shown below are a 100 litre, a 150 litre and a 200 litre bath volume with a bathing temperature of 40oC and an incoming water temperature of 10oC.  100 litres would be a relatively shallow bath and 200 liters quite deep for most of us.

Bath Size Cost of a Single Bath Cost of a Bath a Day for a Year
Modern Gas Boiler Electrical Immersion Heater Modern Gas Boiler Electrical Immersion Heater
Small (100 litre) 14 pence 46 pence £ 49 £ 167
Medium (150 litre) 20 pence 69 pence £ 74 £ 250
Deep (200 litre) 27 pence 91 pence £ 99 £ 334

Different bath volumes and the indicatice relative costs of these, with electrical and gas water heating

The conclusion is obvious here if you can avoid it do not use an immersion heater to heat your bath water, it is expensive, although thre are immersion heaters that operate on ecomomy 7.  It is also clear that you could save maybe £ 50 or £ 100 a year by just haing shallower baths, difficult to do in the cold winter months!

 

Shower or Power Shower

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Power showers can be expensive; depending on how the water is heated for the shower.  What you may not appreciate is the amount different types of shower will cost you to run.  The table below shows seven types.


Type of shower Cost of 10 minute shower Cost of a shower a day for a year Flow
Electric shower 8.5 kW 17 pence £ 61 Low
Electric shower 10.5 kW 21 pence £ 75 Low
Low flow shower gas heated water in cylinder 8 pence £ 30 Low
Low flow shower electric heated (immersion) water in cylinder 31 pence £ 115 Low
Power shower using gas heated stored water 20 pence £ 72 High
Power shower using electric immersion heater 94 pence £ 345 High
Combi boiler power shower 30kW 17 pence £ 63 High

Five types of shower and their running costs

What may surprise you is that power showers which use gas to heat the water cost about the same as a high powered electric shower to operate, the high power electric shower however will be less forceful.   The “same cost, more force” aspect  is simply due  the lower cost of Gas per kWh.

As an observation, it may in spite of this, be sensible to have an electric shower in case the gas boiler fails.  It will also use less water, if that is a concern wher you live.

The very chepest option is just to use a mixer valve off the gravity fed water from a hot water cylinder, where a gas boiler has been used to heat the water, and this is only completely true if you use the full cylinder of hot water  over a day or so, otherwise the heat is simply lost to the house.

The key tip here is do not use an electric immersion heater to heat water it costs a fortune!

The tips here are based only on running cost, and it is worth noting that if you are deciding whether to install, for example an electric shower, it will cost at least £ 400 and if you are using and water from an immersion heated cylinder with a low flow shower currently it will take you 15 years to pay back the investment, if money is your only concern.

 

Bath or Shower

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This is a complicated picture given the number of methods to heat the water and the flows of water that various showering techniques provide

So here are some rules of thumb:-

  • A medium sized bath uses 150L of water, a power shower for 10 minutes uses about 150L of water, so a bath and a power shower could cost about the same, if the water used in both is heated in the same way.  A low flow shower uses about 50L of water and in this scenario, would cost about a third the price of a power shower.
  • Many of us have a gas boiler and an electric shower.  Electric showers are low flow and in ten minutes may use 50L of water, however electricity costs over 3 times as much as gas at the moment and so surprisingly enough a shower and a bath in this case cost about the same.
 


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